A lot of folks are talking about containers vs. virtualization. Sometimes that makes sense, but there are also a number of cases where they're working together. I want to talk about the relationship between virtualization and containers, and some of the efforts to manage virtualization / IaaS technologies with containers to make them easier to deploy and manage. This includes efforts to containerize things like oVirt and OpenStack, as well as the best way to run KVM virtual machines in privileged containers.